A few weeks back, I came across an NY Times piece that basically expounds the innovation-driven, creativity-centric values that encapsulate Steve Jobs’ life and career and brands America as the all-encompassing hub for such risk-taking pioneers. I already wrote an entire post about Jobs’ ideologies, but I have to comment on them again, perhaps because they strike such a deep, personal chord in me.
Before I delve into personal technicalities, though, the piece I’m discussing, appropriately titled Reaping the Rewards of Risk-Taking, classifies Jobs as the vanguard of innovative thought, experimentation, and so-called “recombinant mash-ups,” or disruptive products that blend perspectives from different disciplines. According to writer Steve Lohr, at the core of all this creating and revolutionizing are the tried and true American values of pioneering, innovating, and risk-taking; and it is, in fact, these very principles that put our nation at a competitive advantage to other countries, even despite the latter’s heavy government financing for scientific research and educational achievements in science and technology. Going along those lines, businesses like Apple, who are credited with revolutionizing the computing and electronics sectors, generally trade at higher valuations on the stock market because they enjoy what is called an “innovation premium.”
In other words, it’s the truly innovative businesses that are the game-changers. And being a game-changer brings in serious dough–and power.
Now, you’re probably wondering why this all matters to me as an individual aside from the knowledge that 1.) I’m a huge admirer of Jobs, and 2.) I’m all about creativity and risk-taking.
Well, once upon a time (two weeks ago, to be exact), I lived and worked in Asia. It was a unique, eye-opening experience that I’ll never quite be able to put into words and all that other jazz that you hear from everyone else who’s lived abroad, but the reason I bring this up is because I’ve seen firsthand the cultural disparities that underlie Western and Eastern societies. The West champions its free-spirited, individualistic culture, while the East generally values discipline, respect for authority, and academic excellence. In this respect, a Westerner might look at an Asian and label him as rigid and self-deprecating, and an Asian may view his Western counterparts as undisciplined and disrespectful.
I won’t take sides, but I will say that as a born and raised American, my time in Asia has allowed me to better understand how the Eastern side of the world thinks and operates. Thus, speaking solely from sheer observation alone, I believe that Lohr’s article, though compelling, presents a one-sided, ethnocentric perspective that completely ignores the strengths of other cultures, particularly those of the East.
To elaborate on this point, I have seen a handful of Americans in my age group with lofty, elaborate dreams of pursuing their passions eventually settle into dry, unfulfilling jobs. Off the top of my head, I can cite a number of reasons for this phenomenon–lack of drive, personal insecurities, to name a couple–but I believe that at the root of it all is an unwillingness to work hard, to exercise discipline, and to suffer a bit in order to reap the future rewards. And while I advocate strongly for the mantras of our generation that egg us on to pursue our passions, I believe that these adages need to come with a forewarning–something along the lines of, “Go hard after your dreams–but be dang well prepared to work your butt off for them and encounter some setbacks along the way. THIS IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART.“
The truth of the matter is, taking risks is exponentially tougher than simply going after what’s safe and socially accepted. In this respect, taking risks requires hard work and discipline, virtues that Eastern societies hone in on. Sure, Jobs dropped out of college after his first semester and spent some time traveling India, which is awesome and all, but he also slept on the floors of his friends’ dorm rooms and went to a local temple every week to partake in a free meal. Oh, not to mention that he started Apple in his parents’ garage and spent ten years building it into a multi-million dollar business. If that doesn’t sound arduous and even a bit unsexy, then I don’t know what is.
With that said, I’ve encountered and worked alongside multitudes of bright, hardworking individuals during my time in Asia. The work ethic is so strong there, it almost puts our good ol’ American working middle-class values to shame. However, what I also witnessed in Asia was an unquestioning and borderline passive stance towards societal norms. Nearly every time I thought to challenge authority in some way shape or form, my remarks were almost always met with an all-too-accepting “that’s just the way things are.”
On the flip side, Americans are great at questioning the status quo, engineering new ideas, and standing up for their opinions and beliefs. It is, essentially, this flourishing spirit of creativity and outside-the-box thinking that attracted me back home. Nonetheless, aside from our dedication to individualism and appetite for creativity, I worry that a good number of my fellow Gen Y-ers simply cower in fear at the prospect of being challenged and stretched beyond their perceived means. It is this distaste towards discomfort that paralyzes us and puts us as a competitive disadvantage on the global scoreboard.
Therefore, I’d like to expand on Lohr’s points and argue that while America is a unique, vibrant nation with a strong knack for creativity, we should never allow ourselves to get away with believing that our school of thought is superior to any other culture’s. Instead, we should be utilizing our resources to continuously seek out new ways to grow, to adapt to our increasingly globally-connected world, and to broaden our perspectives. Like Jobs instructs, it is our duty as a nation that fosters innovation to cultivate an environment that rewards curiosity and open-mindedness.
And that, my friends, takes some hard, unadulterated work.
What do you think? Do you agree that our current and future generations would be better off finding and achieving a delicate balance between Western ideals of personal freedom and creativity and Eastern morals of discipline and respect, or am I way over my head with this one?
Agreed. Plain and simple. Agreed…
I’m struggling with the whole “risk-taking” concept in my professional life, as I’m about to embark on a full-time freelance writing career. But I’m not afraid of hard work, so that’s not the risk. I have a family and I value time with them: That is what I perceive as being at risk.
Because will I be successful? Absolutely — I have no choice. But will I do so at the expense of my family time? As a passionate single mom with two amazing kids: Man, I hope not…
Interesting post.
Mikalee, that’s a great point. I firmly believe that as long as you continue to keep your family’s best interests in mind, your efforts will pay off in the end! Keep me posted on your journey and thanks for stopping by!
Mikalee, I totally resonate with your comments (not to mention the post). I also left a “career” to pursue freelance writing… hard work of a different kind, and with a family intact.
your point is clear and straight foward.i felt great reading it.
your point is clear and straight forward.i felt great reading it.
I worked in South Korea for two years and I would say that people definitely put in long hours and experience health problems as a result of this (the boss sends them out at lunch to a neighborhood clinic to get an antibiotic shot directly into the bloodstream and then return back to work immediately), but in that country at least, it is not efficient or engaged work. That said, people are willing to push themselves harder, whereas in the West we have been tricked out of productivity and passively wait while we lose our competitiveness. Do you find that North America seems unbearably slow to you now? I got used to the instant gratification of pulling in so much money and saving it, teaching celebrities and top-end international conglomerate employees. I have absolutely no feelings of resistance to immigration or when people from other countries set up businesses in the US or Canada – they can generally do it better and have the real motivation!
Thanks for the insight, tarotworldtour – I get where you’re coming from. The East is, for the most part, incredibly efficient and hardworking (based on my personal observations). I wonder though if there is some way Americans can learn from and even begin to adopt these practices without losing our propensity for creativity and individualism. What do you think?
I agree that South Koreans push harder, but I think it is one of their unique organizational culture that has been prevalent since 1970s. I don’t think US and other european countries are losing their edge due to long working hours, but it is the dedication to developing human capital.
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Emma, yes, in fact most large corporations are using a lot of Japanese management techniques already – particularly the 360 reviews that are now almost standard practice. I cannot speak for China or Taiwan, but the main problem I found in Korea was the lack of introspection or placement of emphasis on time to reflect about consequences. It is a race to adapt to what “everyone” is doing. I personally like the pace of commerce in Asia better, but a lot of it is aided by corporate fascism and state-run monopolies… this is actually likely to carry over as well. Still, the bravery of Asia is something we could all learn to apply to our lives.
“I worry that a good number of my fellow Gen Y-ers simply cower in fear at the prospect of being challenged and stretched beyond their perceived means.”
Very true. I’ve also read our current teens have blurred sense of reality when it comes to success. To them, with all the youtube discoveries and Twitter conversations with celebs, the goal is to become a media superstar, relying on attention and constant feedback. Not sure how things are going to turn out for that group…
Great post.
Agree. As a member of “that group,” it’s a struggle not to get suckered into these false pretenses of “easy fame” and “instant success,” particularly because social media and the Internet have seamlessly integrated themselves into our daily lives.
Thanks for that insight!
I’m a Baby Boomer. Have had conversations with friends about this very subject, and yes, I think a lot of young people have never learned how to work hard at something. Some of that is my generation’s fault, because so many of us were into the idea of following your bliss. We should have said follow your bliss and be prepared to work hard at it; if you love it, you won’t mind so much. I like the balance of Eastern and Western approaches.
“Follow your bliss and be prepared to work hard at it; if you love it, you won’t mind so much.”
I fully believe this as well! Beautifully said. Thanks for the insights, judithornot!
I honestly believe that hardwork has become an exotic concept because the youth is so wrapped up and distracted by the media: Tv, movies, music videos and ect. In addition, people generally aren’t being raised to value hard-work, only material things.
Great insight. Going off your point, it is tough to value hard work when there are so many glittery, sexy things out there on the media! It all seems so accessible and attainable, you know?
Thanks for reading, Rahsaan!
Yes, Yes and Yes!!! While the american economy is full of “oh woe is me” we are experiencing growth in our business. A niche business, indeed. one that requires us to work 6-7 days a week, 8-12 hour days depending on how busy we are. We stretched our personal finances to their limit to make it happen, but the bottom line is, we work at it. Its what we do from getting up in the morning to when we go to bed. We even wake up in the middle of the night to make notes on what we’ve forgotten. My partner has only been self employed since he was discharged from the army in 1971. His first business was in the NY metro area – a niche business again. 7 days a week, 12 hour days. No, we are not living in mansions, we don’t have buckets of money stashed in the back yard. But we have a good roof over our heads, nearly paid for. used cars in the garage. and our bills are paid and food is on the table. Its ours. It can be said we come and go as we please. But its all about the work. One outside of ourselves employee because he’s the only person we’ve been able to find who could and would work. Otherwise, they don’t care about the quality of their work. They can’t focus. They want to chat. They want to come in late if they preferred being out at night. Or they’d rather social network. This spring, our nephew in law is coming to give it a try as he can’t find work where he lives in NC. Know he’s not afraid to work, but will he be willing to give it 100% all the time? we’ll see. Otherwise, our lead times just get longer as our reputation grows!
Having the same problems with our startup business. It has grown to the point that my wife and I are already putting in 16 and 18 hour days some days and cannot find someone, not even our own adult children, willing to step in and do some of the work.
Our oldest son was out of work for over eight months, moved back home and only after his unemployment ran out six months later did he manage to put in a few hours working for us so he could at least have gas money.
Helping build perseverance will go a long way to help get creative ideas out there.
There are several kids who work hard but they are less visible than the kids we see at the mall or hanging out at the skateboard park. The kids who understand the value of hard work are in organized sports, in special-interest clubs, or studying at the library.
“Genius is one percent inspiration, ninety-nine percent perspiration.” — Thomas Edison.
I think you and Thomas are right, Emma.
Maybe the question isn’t so much whether or not we should work hard, but what we should work hard at.
Great post!
Yes! What should we work hard at? We should work hard at what inspires us.
I second your great post!
elroyjones, I completely agree. Often times finding what inspires us is half the work in and of itself! Thanks for your insight!
Sounds like Pattabhi Jois: He said, Yoga is “99% Practice, 1% Theory.”
In my minds eye, this saying seems to apply to everything.
I completely agree with you, Emma. Balance is essential. Look at our Western culture, for the most part we have become transfixed with acquiring more, as if abundance is the answer to all of life’s woe’s. Honestly, the more people have the less time there is to take care of what they already have. And the first thing to suffer from my perspective is our health. Are you familiar with the saying:
“We spend our health gaining wealth, then spend our wealth to gain back our health.”
Being creative, challenged and having drive is essential to happy human survival. Self-discipline is born from being consistent with whatever we do. We must take care of our body and mind in order to contribute in a productive way to our world…there’s not much more to it. Global Balance. We must take the best from each culture and nurture one another’s growth.
I love that Pattabhi Jois quote and speaking from personal experience as a huge yoga fanatic myself, I second that!
Love your quote, too: “Honestly, the more people have the less time there is to take care of what they already have.” So, so true!
Thanks for dropping by!
Love that quote and your wise insight! Thanks Eric (and Thomas Edison!)
Great post, totally agree. I think we’re getting more and more stupid as we see stupid people on tv
That’s a very candid way to put it, but I see what you’re getting at! Thanks for the insight, yooch
There’s always room to re-evaluate how we do things in order to make us stronger as a country
Word. Thanks for swinging by, mkglowe!
I agree, creativity and hard work are equally important. Commitment is too, we can’t let fear of failure keep us from trying.
True that – commitment is a HUGE, but often overlooked, concept these days, it seems! Thanks for the insight!
“…but I believe that at the root of it all is an unwillingness to work hard, to exercise discipline, and to suffer a bit in order to reap the future rewards.”
You hit the nail right on the head with this quote. I am a baby boomer, as well, but I am also a person who worked her tail off to get out of the ghetto, get educated, and contribute to our amazing country. I raised my kids to do the same, but the message didn’t come through as strongly as I would have liked because the culture around them (their friends) wasn’t speaking the same language. For years I was a lone voice in the wilderness when I forced my kids to stand on their own two feet and keep working and trying for their dreams. They are beginning to see the fruit of it now, but, boy, I’m exhausted from the stress!
I actually think the reason the Mormons do such a good job at translating this message to their kids is that the children grow up in a contained community with the same values and beliefs. Whether one agrees with their theology or not, their kids do have a strong work ethic, strong personal discipline, and an understanding of sacrifice because they must spend two years on the “mission field” serving people. We’ve lost that communal voice as well as the indiviual drive to work hard and keep trying.
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Interesting slant on the Mormons. I am a Mormon and am currently raising a son to hopefully understand the value of work and yet this post really resonated with me as well. In spite of the fact that I live in a predominately LDS (Mormon) culture I see the same problem here, maybe it’s not as extreme, but the influence of a childhood spent sitting on your rear playing video games or being catered to by your mother has definitely affected the degree to which kids/young adults are willing to work. I even see it in myself to some extent.
I too was raised as a Mormon (not one now) but I do think my work ethic definitely came from both the religion and what my parents taught me. I spent 10 years working at a Japanese company in Los Angeles because I loved their work ethic, no one had to be told what to do, we just worked. Now self employed for over 10 years, I have run into a younger generation who does not have the same initiative and must be constantly told what to do, with a few exceptions. Thanks for your post, Aloha!
Thanks so much for the input, everyone. Love hearing your insights! Keep ‘em coming
The truth of the matter is, taking risks is exponentially tougher than simply going after what’s safe and socially accepted.– I completely agree!! Great post!
Thanks, Lakia! You’re super
I think you’ve hit it right on the head. We have to stay on the edge, be willing to push the envelopes and take risks, but once we strike gold, we need to be reminded to dig all the way to the bottom of the vein. It takes both the courage to start and the willingness to see it through.
I noticed when I taught in college that students would graduate and then come back in a year or two, dissatisfied with their first job. They all said they weren’t “getting anywhere.” They expected to make six figures right out of the shoot and have the red carpet put down to the corner office before the end of a fiscal year. I think the “instant gratification” plays into this to a degree; everyone assumes that success should come overnight and that it’s as easy as say creating Facebook. Also, the viral celebrity culture we live in where someone gets rich and famous for doing something incredibly stupid and/or infamous that gets parked on YouTube has fine tuned the need for instant success. Great post!
I completely agree – I think digital media, especially social media, has definitely played into our current generation’s expectations of easy success and instant fame. And by the way, I love this point:
“We have to stay on the edge, be willing to push the envelopes and take risks, but once we strike gold, we need to be reminded to dig all the way to the bottom of the vein. It takes both the courage to start and the willingness to see it through.”
SO GREAT! Thanks for dropping by, jamieahughes!
Steve Jobs said it best: “my job is not to be easy on people. my job is to make them better.
To all my fellow Gen Y – take the risk and build the next apple.
Great post!
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Thought provoking. I completely agree with you.
I see a great writer in you, for a publication like WSJ or NY Times etc. Keep it up!
Thanks, Faiza – that means a lot! You’re great!
For me, personally, since I started working and making money I’ve had hard working, manual, type of jobs. Being a dog groomer is no walk in the park, and physically, and mentally, you’d be so exhausted you’d collapse still soaked to the bone with your ‘waterproof’ clothes still on. And, now I’m a massage therapist, which is very manual, but I’m kind of unusual with my job careers. I agree that hard work is an important thing and you gotta fight for it if you want something really bad.
Great insight, sarahnsh. Wow, dog groomer turned massage therapist – I’m so impressed! Thanks for dropping by
As previous posters have mentioned, hard work needs to be in pursuit of a worthy and creative goal to really pay off. Merely digging a hole and then filling it back up repeatedly is hard work, but does it accomplish anything?
No, and neither do a lot of our current “cube farm” jobs.
I COMPLETELY agree. Thanks for the added insight!
Yes, I’m afraid hard work has become quite the yesteryear ideal. Innovation does no good without the sweat equity to back it up. I don’t know of anywhere that will pay you to twirl in an office chair all day, shouting out brilliant ideas as they come to you.
One paragraph of yours particularly caught my attention;
“…We should never allow ourselves to get away with believing that our school of thought is superior to any other culture’s. Instead, we should be utilizing our resources to continuously seek out new ways to grow, to adapt to our increasingly globally-connected world, and to broaden our perspectives.”
If you replace “any other culture’s” with “any other person’s”, it becomes a very personal message. It’s when American indiviuals begin taking that paragraph to heart in every day’s work environment that the cultural bias will begin to shift.
Thank you for your inspiration, Emma!
Tirzah, you’re awesome! Thanks for that. It’s mind-blowing how much impact changing a single word can make on an entire statement.
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This is quite the unconventional reaction. Thanks for reading anyways!
I liked your post. I just read a book I think you would enjoy called “Generation Me: Why Today’s Young Americans Are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled – and More Miserable Than Ever Before” by Jean M. Twenge, Ph.D.
Thanks so much, Laurie! I will definitely check out that book – sounds like an interesting read!
Totally! Considering how many of us are reading Freshly Pressed at work, I’m going to take a moment to bask in the irony. mmm Irony.
THAT made me LOL! You’re the best, natasiarose
Thanks for reading!
Great post. Well said and I think you are right, most of us really don’t know hard work. We’ve been able to live good lives without much sacrifice so most people grab the low hanging fruit. But that’s changing and the low hanging fruit isn’t there anymore, so in order to get ahead Americans will have to adopt the work ethic we think we have but actually don’t.
Nicely put, although I think it is possible for Americans (and anyone, for that matter) to adopt strong work habits. It’s just a matter of willpower, commitment, and passion, in my opinion! Thanks for reading, Christina – you’re great!
Exactly my thoughts. We (being a Gen-Y) for the most part have no concept of what earning an actual living is like. We aspire to so much, but then take the safe or easy route 9 times out of 10 (likely 99 times out of 100 in actuality).
The climate here in Canada isn’t much better, and I fear for my peers who haven’t even given thought to how hard life will be when the Age of Entitlement crashes down around us.
I can relate to this post. I am currently transitioning into a more full time income from freelance writing. Its a definite challenge. Its also been a good experience in learning to say no to myself on certain expenses as well.
That’s awesome – best of luck to you in your transition! Keep me posted, zenlifefrugal!
Awesome post! I’m half German, half Indian, and I’m living in the States, so that’s an interesting combination. I noticed that, what you said, the Western culture merely goes “after what’s safe and socially accepted.” That’s why we still put money in our banks, and refrain from high-risk investments. We can really learn a lot from the Easter culture, and they can learn a lot from us as well. We should learn how to combine the two Work-Cultures and teach the next generation so that they may flourish like never before. As I said before, awesome post, and thank you.
Wow, half German half Indian – that’s a cool mix
Love your insights and I agree that we need to be more open and informed about other cultures and pass that global awareness onto future generations. Thanks for dropping by, jansimson!
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great post – AGREED
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I think you are correct. Freedom without discipline can lead to aimless wandering. Discipline without freedom is tyranny. Creativity without discipline means all these wonderful things started…but left unfinished. Discipline without creativity means doing the same damn thing over and over. Freedom without respect is chaos. Respect without freedom seems to be compelled and hence not true respect.
Excellent post.
Nicely put! Couldn’t have said it better myself.
I agree with everything you said in your post which I found to be very interesting and enlightening, but there’s another thing that bothers me which I think plays into everything under discussion, and it’s roots begin in the earliest stages of education and continues throughout. To me, education in general seems to have taken the view that it’s more important to teach children what to think rather than how to think. Recently, I had an encounter that serves as a good example of what I’m talking about. My daughter came home with a social studies paper that she scored an “A” on, but as I looked at it I saw numerous mistakes in the way of misspellings, and improper punctiation. Being concerned but not wishing to hurt or discourage my child, I had a private meeting with her teacher a few days later in which I brought up my concern about her paper. How could she have such a high score, indicating the misspelling and punctuation,when she has so many errors on it? Her teacher said they didn’t count off for those mistakes because my daughter got the ideas right. Am I the only one who sees something wrong with this?
I’ve seen this to some degree in every grade she’s passed through. In my day, if a paper wasn’t spelled and punctuated correctly it wasn’t right. I grew up with the understanding that standards were set with the goal of increasing one’s ability and esteem through meeting those standards. How can one know what it is to work hard if one is never called to work hard. How can one learn to think independently if one is evaluated not on how they think, but on what they think? It seems to me that children are being taught more and more how to conform to a group ideology, rather than to individualism, and the merit of creativity and hard work.
Forgive me if my post is too long, or off point. I’ll be looking forward to reading more of your writing.
Your story about your daughter shocked me. While I believe in enforcing confidence and self-esteem at an early age, I think the line between discipline and sheer ignorance definitely needs to be drawn somewhere. It seems like your daughter’s teacher was afraid of discouraging your daughter too much–or perhaps even worse, it was an act of pure laziness on the teacher’s part. It’s important for children to learn how to understand concepts well, but being able to communicate one’s thoughts in a concise, understandable, educated manner is also just as crucial, in my opinion.
On another note, thanks for sharing that story. Look forward to hearing more from you, Wayne!
Let me first point out one mistake in your post. The second paragraph suggests that other governments spend more on scientific research than the United States, but the USA actually spends more on science than the rest of the world combined.
I agree with the major gist of your post, namely that the younger generation here at home, of which I am a member, tends towards the lazy side. I also agree with your observations about the differences between American and Asian values. However, I’d be cautious about being too ready to split the difference with Asia. They have some things over there which we obviously don’t want to import, such as sexism and censorship.
Thanks for your insights, alexbpop, and I definitely agree that there are some facets of the Asian culture that could use some serious refining. Going along those lines, I’ve written about my struggle to holistically understand the whole issue of “women’s rights” in the Middle East before (http://emmatzeng.wordpress.com/2011/08/20/womens-rights-but-what-are-they-really/); the challenge of trying to strike a balance between advocating for social justice and respecting and understanding other cultures is still a difficult one to reconcile. The main point I was trying to make was that instead of completely shutting others out, America as a nation should be more open to recognize the strengths of other cultures and evolve by learning from the triumphs of our counterparts. With that said, I definitely wouldn’t advocate blindly adopting others’ traditions without first closely evaluating them and analyzing how to effectively weave these ideologies into the fabric of American culture without losing our identity as a nation that holds individualism, personal expression, and innovation in high esteem.
Also, I admittedly didn’t think to double check that statistic about how America’s spending on scientific research stacks up against its peers. Do you mind e-mailing me the figures if you have them on hand? (emma.tzeng@gmail.com) Perhaps I can revise my post with those numbers! Thanks again for reading and hope to hear from you soon!
good post. The people who work hardest earn the least. The manual worker, the cleaner, the brickie, the stonemason while the ones who yap on phones and push keys earn the most……….!
Ah, the flawed, unjust realities of our economic system – don’t get me started on that one! Thanks for dropping by, Julius
140 hour weeks. Not for the timid or easily distracted. It is also no guarantee success wil be the outcome. Crushing disapontments go with the territory.
Oops . . “Disappointments” . . Fatigue=typos. Fortunately, most of mine don’t wind up changing world history.
140-hour weeks?! Whoa, what job was this? That’s inhumane.
Thanks for stopping by, Mr. D’!
I can relate to your post because I have those feelings too–fear and cowardice. I’m in college and I don’t think that I am ready to enter the work force at all. I work hard in school but I wonder if that is the same as working hard in the work place. Will I survive? This also makes me think that college doesn’t prepare students for work because we don’t learn practical skills. We still cram as much information into our brain as we can, and then dispense them after taking the exam.
I am Chinese American and I am ambivalent about what to do. My peers and mentors encourage me to follow my heart and do what I like, but my parents demand that I follow the safe route to be [financially] secure.
Dear Anonymous, I’d love to converse with you more on this topic because I feel like I–and countless others–can relate in many ways! Do you mind dropping me a message at emma.tzeng@gmail.com?
With that said, don’t be discouraged if you don’t know what you want to do yet. The important thing right now is that you’re thinking about it. I say do some internships, get involved in on-campus clubs, get out there and meet as many people as you can, and be ready to soak up everything like a sponge – I’ve found that experience is often the best remedy for future-related confusion! Best of luck to you, and again, don’t be discouraged!
For many, it may simply be the unwillingness to take the risk. You can pour a lot of time and money into an idea and see nothing come from it. However, I do agree that our society lacks discipline.
Totally agree! I once spoke to a guy who hated his job; but when I probed further and suggested some alternate career routes, he ultimately admitted, “I think I’ll just continue working at my job. Honestly, I’m too comfortable already and unwilling to change at this point.” It’s all a matter of personal preference, I suppose!
I think risk-taking and hard work are different but equally important ingredients for success. I spent half a period the other day talking to a student who wants to work hard but is paralyzed by the fear that she’ll come up with the wrong answer. She has to check everything, everything with me no matter how kindly I try to encourage her to just take a stab at it. I finally said, “You have to stop second-guessing yourself. You have to be brave. Take a risk. Write it down. It might be totally, totally wrong, and the world won’t end.”
I’m actually planning to post about this on Monday: the willingness to fail, and how essential that is for success. Paul Tough wrote about it last weekend in the NYT – http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/18/magazine/what-if-the-secret-to-success-is-failure.html?scp=1&sq=failure&st=cse – and I have some things to say about it.
This was a great post; thank you.
Interesting points, Siobhan Curious. I can actually relate to your student in several ways: I’m a stickler for planning ahead and am naturally inclined to take the “safer” route! To take a risk requires a complete 180 in my thinking patterns and personal tendencies – it is for this reason that I wrote that taking risks is exponentially tougher than choosing a conventional route.
On that note, I look forward to reading your post! Do you mind shooting me an e-mail after it’s posted?
emma.tzeng@gmail.com
Thanks for stopping by!
I sure will! It will be up tomorrow (Monday) morning; if you’re seeing this after 9 a.m. or so you can just visit my site: http://www.siobhancurious.wordpress.com
I will drop you a line shortly after it’s up.
Hi there. I spotted your post on Freshly Pressed and it reminded me of something I was thinking about a few days ago: it’s getting harder to find people who believe that hard work leads to great rewards. Right now we have the Kardashians, a slew of talentless pop stars, and many reality TV shows that require very little work on the part of the subjects. Basically, anyone can become famous for doing virtually no work at all. Yet they get to attend awards shows, get paid millions to do campaigns and get A-list treatment despite not being real actors or musicians. So I do fear that hard work is becoming an exotic concept.
Love your Kardashians analogy
Great insights! Thanks for dropping by, Chris!
Awesome blog post and extremely well written. Thank you Emma!
Thank YOU for bearing with me all the way to the end of my long-winded post
you’re great!
That was a very good observation. I totally enjoyed reading your piece.
Thanks so much! That means a lot!
Just as being a mom and working full time …
…is a TOUGH GIG!
Thanks for swinging by – more power to you!
Americans that say they are “hard-working” while demonizing countries that offer healthcare, education, etc, makes my skin crawl. Are these Americans happy they work harder and get less back from their government? I used to work three, yes THREE jobs, and went to school part time. I worked 7 days a week, 81 hours a week and was gone from my home from 6:00 a.m. until almost midnight every night, and all I gained was, (actually lost a few pounds because I actually lived on corn muffins and coffee) the knowledge that one of my part time jobs was basically the amount of income I was taxed on, meaning, the more I made, the more I was taxed. This is all fine and good for those who make over $100,000 + grand, but not those who are between impoverished and middle class. So I said to myself: “Self, no more!”, quit my two part time jobs, kept the full time and got myself a little black Labrador Retriever puppy. She is gone now, passed July 18th 2010, almost 13 years old, and she was the best thing that ever happened to me, she was the love of my life (still is, obviously in a non-sexual way, if there are any non-dog folk, we say “love” as in purely platonic when talking about our better halves: animals we share our lives with). Of course I never knew how much more people of most of the other civilized countries of the world get back when they give. At one time here in the USA, if you worked hard at your job, your employer would thank you. Know they just try to fire you once you cap your pay and they realize they could hire one person to do what a young person would do for pennies….because they have no idea they are being screwed over and just used and will also be stabbed in the back, even if they give their blood, sweat and tears to their employer. So I say, if you can work for yourself and utilize all the loop holes that others find, all legal mind you, than do it. Life is WWAAAAYYYYY too short and your life is WWAAAYYYY to important to be giving yourself hoping for some sort of return, whether emotional, monetary or whatever reason, because nothing is certain, but, as they say; taxes and death.
I’d like to believe that there are more hopeful prospects at the end of the line than “taxes and death,” but to each his own, I suppose!
Thanks for swinging by, cpmondello!
There is a funny corollary to all this: life is what you make it or what it makes of you.
It is said that failing at what you love doing is more fulfilling than succeeding at something you dislike. Fear of failure is a common issue anywhere, but imagine the difference between failing at something you really wanted and the result having a permanent, damning effect on your lifestyle, and failing at something you don’t really care about and the result also having a permanent, damning effect on your lifestyle. Choose wisely.
Best wishes and congratulations on FP
“It is said that failing at what you love doing is more fulfilling than succeeding at something you dislike.”
Preach it!
Thanks for stopping by, chunter!
I really enjoyed your post! I see this kind of lax attitude with my younger brothers, both are good workers, but lack the push and drive to move themselves beyond where they are now, they accept the status quo and fall into the next role and hope it is more money, or that they like it better.
I was like that for awhile at the whole, ‘end of teens beginning of 20′s period’ I think that was more about not being positive where I wanted to go and who I wanted to be or who I was. Once the decision was made though it was all systems go, within a couple of months I had enrolled in Uni via correspondence and changed jobs (not to the job I wanted, but a job that would provide me more experience to get me there), stayed in that job for a year and now have a role in the exact organisation I have dreamed of working in for years and am well on my way!
Many people have been quoting famous people in their replies, well here’s a wonderful piece from one of my heroes, “find something that you love, that makes your soul sing and find a way to make money doing it!” – my Grandfather.
Awesome advice from your gramps! Thanks for dropping by and commenting, and congrats on the job – you earned it
Larry king once said this on American dream (I am not quoting his exact words): I thought that American streets are paved in gold, but soon after coming here I realized that the roads are not really paved in gold for me to to walk on but opportunities do exist in plenty to pave the roads with gold by anyone for that matter. Even though these are not his exact words, you can see where I am going with this when Gen-M/X/Ys are in question.
Emma, your exploration may pay dividends to understand the completeness in learning if you are able to visit my blog on 21st century education at bala21.wordpress.com where I present a mish-mash of perspectives on learning and education and their impact on doing business in 21st century. I am not sure whether hard-working translates somehow to sacrifices that Gen-M/X/Ys are not able to comprehend because that era of sacrifices and hard work that existed in America during world wars before baby boomers were born are now, perhaps, forgotten.
Love that insight from Larry King and your thoughts about the differences between pre- and post-baby boomer generations. I wonder about the latter often as well. Do you think the next generation is generally headed down the same trajectory, or will they be a little more frugal and hardheaded than our current generation?
Thanks for stopping by!
I can’t even get my adult aged kids, who do not currently have jobs due to the terrible job market, to take out the trash once a week. Meanwhile, I am running a home based start-up that is getting to be more than my wife and I can handle as well as working a full time job. We’ve offered both of the kids the opportunity to work at the business, but neither one can seem to be bothered. What to do, what to do…
You should give them an ultimatum: take out the trash or start paying rent! I kid…
Thanks for dropping by, Kzinti – best of luck to you and your wife!
Kids. Pffft! Now I know why my parents had gray hair early on in life. LOL. I think the one thing I learned from this whole parenting thing is that Drive, Ambition, is not something you can teach someone. It comes from within each of us. You either have it or you don’t. I’ve come to realize that two of our kids have little and I worry about how that will effect their futures.
Good point. Although I agree that characteristics such as ambition and drive are largely genetic, I think there are always things you can do to push children (and anyone, for that matter) to have more drive and ambition even if it’s unnatural for them. Maybe start by challenging them to think independently, to live off their own means, to question their motives and values from time to time, etc. What do you think?
Danish Schools get it. You can read some on their educational methods here:
http://www.dpu.dk/en/newsandevents/news/article/artikel/warning_tests_may_ruin_the_danish_primary_school/
People today are not paid to think, schools do not teach it. They teach “Read and Regurgitate”. Put basically, if my kids had to live off their own means, they’d be living in the street, eating out of a dumpster. They just do not have any drive. I am often reminded of a cartoon I saw about the very subject. Link below:
http://www.explosm.net/comics/2536/
Excellent post. I was born in and grew up in Singapore (currently residing in Maine, USA). As with most things in life, it’s best to have an open mind and to always strive for balance
Agreed. Thanks for the insight, Jess!
I agree and disagree with you, but great, thought-provoking post. I am young and I work extremely hard at my job, not manually, but mentally and emotionally. Frequently, I put in 70 hour weeks, but I think working hard and working long hours are two different things. Both have their downsides as well. Working so hard at my job often leaves me with less energy and time to work hard at things like writing, art, working out, etc. Basically, I’m saying it is a trade off. Yes, I’m working hard, but I’m not working hard in the same way Steve Jobs did because my job drains me as is the case for several young friends of mine. Then again, my friends and I hail from the Midwest where work ethic is ingrained in us.
I agree with you because my job entails working with homeless youth. When I was precariously housed, I worked my ass off, got two jobs, went to school, and picked myself up out of it. Granted some of my youth have mental illness and trauma, several of them simply don’t have that sort of work ethic to get themselves out of their situation. The economy isn’t great, but there are little jobs these youth can get and work their way toward something bigger. It is also a commentary on the work ethic of parents and what is being passed down or not passed down to youth.
I guess we shouldn’t generalize that young people don’t have a work ethic and that America is declining in this way. The state of our economy is paralyzing for people and it feels like our jobs are expecting more of us, but not providing opportunities for risk-taking and creativity.
Thanks for sharing, thekarmamortgage – it’s interesting to hear another firsthand perspective. I definitely get where you’re coming from and your insights are clear testaments that there are, of course, exceptions to every argument. Obviously many of the students you work with don’t have the resources to pull themselves out of their current predicament; in this case, you can’t blame them for circumstances out of their control. In your case, though, I assume that you’re doing what you love at the moment AND working hard at it so I wouldn’t say that you necessarily fall into the category of “working at a dead-end job and hating every minute of it but am too afraid to do something about it.” So although you might not feel as though you have much time and energy outside of your career to take on other creative pursuits for the time-being, it seems like you’re generally on a good path. I could be completely wrong though – what do you think?
Oh my gosh. I LOVE this post! Love it. I couldn’t agree more. I am half asian, half white and I’ve always just picked and chosen what I like from both cultures. I think the east and west both have great ideas and ideals.
And I agree with you that the risk taking isn’t enough. So many of the success stories we see are so glossy and spun to look glamorous. I always like to dig deeper and find the truth. I think its helpful to know that someone had been working for years to get where they got, and slept on couches and got their cars reposessed and failed and failed. It’s not helpful to hear that they were an overnight success, because that doesn’t exist. It’s a myth and a damaging one at that! I wrote a post on success that talks about some of these things if you want to check it out.
http://stopbeingaloser.org/2011/08/01/success-for-dummies-smarties-and-everyone-in-between/
I’ve rambled enough. I subscribed. Keep up the good work!
You’re awesome and love all the points you made! Great blog as well! Thanks for dropping by!
Love this post! Great concept.
Reminds me of a quote. However can’t remember who it’s by. “I watched as I saw a man play the piano and said, I’d give my life to play like that. And the man said, I did.”
Lovely quote. Thanks for that, clarehudson!
I think a huge thing about us millennials, as I have observed with my newly graduated peers, is the sense that “everything will work out.” Of course I know many people my age who work hard–very hard–and push the boundaries because they have adapted to the new definition of “hard work.” That’s just the thing, though. Hard work as it was a decade ago is nowhere near what hard work entails NOW. I agree with you that laziness and lack of discipline play a huge part in Gen Y’s seemingly ubiquitous apathy and aimless wandering, but I will add that I think many haven’t yet realized that “hard work” is no longer just never taking a sick day or putting in all your promised hours. The problem is how fast things–technology, lifestyle, how we connect with each other–are changing and how slow people are adapting to a world that is much more demanding and at a much more rapid pace.
You and I, Emma, are challenged with something our parents were not pressured to put on their resumes: innovation, thinking outside the box, crazy ideas. But I definitely think that challenge is a blessing in disguise…pretty soon we’ll be able to have invisibility cloaks and those flying pigs people keep talking about.
Love your post!
That’s so true, Diane – great points. Our society is evolving at a quicker pace than ever before and it seems that as opportunities have become scarcer and the playing field gets increasingly competitive, more and more is expected of us. I do agree though that those of us who manage to thrive despite the difficult circumstances surrounding us will be THAT much better off in the end
There is still hope at the end of the line! Thanks so much for dropping by and for the support!
I think the problem is Gen Y is used to security. They are too afraid to put it at risk. There are some people who don’t like hard work and then there are some who want the opportunity to work hard but aren’t given the chance because of perceptions.
Agreed – I think the desire for security is characteristic of all mankind, not just Gen Y. Thanks for commenting, leadinglight!
I think that next generation will be better but it may be hard to go there.
Definitely. It isn’t impossible, though! Thanks for stopping by, game camera!
Amen!!! I think you are not over your head, but you hit the subject matter right on the bull’s eye. I thought I was the only one who thought this way. I have just started blogging for one of my college classes, and I am so glad I do. If I didnt blog I wouldnt know that other people thought the same as I did on different subjects. This blog made my day. I hope that collectively as a whole Americans can see what you and I see, be more open minded and creative enough to be innovators like we used to be. On your question for the readers, i think there should be a happy medium. Have a drive to do your best at everything you do (there is nothing worth doing if you dont do it with enthuiasm and purpose) and being creative and risk-taking. While at the same time be respectful and curtious to others around you. Including elders, authority, and peers. I will do my part. Actions speak louder than words, and I am a firm believer that anyone can make a difference.
Thanks for the support, chucktowncrazy2011, and I agree that we should blend ambition with creativity and risk-taking, be respectful of others’ views, and constantly seek out differing perspectives. Great points!
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I agree with what someone else has said before me: a big worry of mine is taking the steps toward a dream, whether it be full-time freelance writing or writing a novel, or taking a job that will take up most of my time, is not having the time I want or need with my family/spouse. However, hard work is necessary to get to where you want to go to fulfill your dreams, it’s a delicate balance.
Congrats on Freshly Pressed!
Well said. Balancing your dreams with practicality and other responsibilities is always a huge challenge and one should definitely ALWAYS weigh in on their situation first before taking a huge career leap! Thanks for that insight and the encouragements, Samantha!
Love this post. Love it. Thank you for taking the time to articulate this contrast between the values of the East and West. I work with young people and am curious to notice how many in the US have been taught to dream big, but haven’t been taught the skills to make those dreams a reality. Somewhere along the line we seem to have gotten overly invested in making our kids feel really great and really happy, to such a degree it has become disabling to their motivation. It seems self satisfaction should probably be earned, rather than inherited.
It’s ironic, we Westerners seem so attracted to the Zen concepts of the East that embrace peace and relaxation, but do not seem so keen on the first of the four Noble Truths of Buddhism, “All of life is suffering.” Funny how we pick and choose. I’ve kind of fallen for this too, in that I’m always trying to find ways to help kids reduce their discomfort. But I’m wondering if I’ve got it all wrong. When I’ve looked into the lives of great people throughout history, the movers and the shakers, the revolutionaries who actually contributed to the betterment of humanity, most, or many of those people suffered a great deal. I know we would like to believe that people who are most content and satisfied with themselves, have the high self-esteem do the best work, but I think too much of anything probably isn’t good. Too much comfort indicates a condition that must be artificially maintained, and the maintenance of that comfort takes energy away from fullfilling high hopes,and dreams. I fear your post unleashed my genie for the day. Hooray!!! Pain isn’t such a bad thing – maybe it is just the fuel we need to reach beyond ourselves, to reach those distant and elusive stars. Somehow we need to bring back Grit and Determination, make persistence in the face of doubt sexy again. (If it’s not hot nobody will pay any attention)
Agreed. We see this more and more in many of the Gen-Y circles (especially causes that are social justice- or religion-oriented). So many people with big hearts and a passion to help others. My husband, who’s a pastor for high school and college students, likes to say that, “Everybody wants to change the world, but nobody wants to do the dishes.” You’re right. People want to think progressively and pursue their lofty goals, but they don’t always want to sleep on the floor and wait 10 years while they put in the hard work to get there. Thanks for bringing some attention to this growing (and disturbing) trend!
Nicely put, christiekiley – appreciate the insights from you and your husband! Mad respect for your husband, by the way, for shepherding future generations, and props to you for supporting and walking with him along the way
Thanks for reading and commenting!
Ha!! Love it – can I requote your husband?
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agree
hard work makes strong and prepares for a happy life and solid future
Thanks for stopping by, hans8539!
I’m going to take up a little of your time with a counter-argument. Please bear with me.
The truth is that all work is hard work. The myth is that if you work hard you will get on. No, if you work hard you will get tired. The lure is ‘reward’, and this is where we fall down, not the individualism of the West nor the structured approach of the East. Slice it any way you want but only a small minority (within a capitalist system) can control wealth and power; largely these are either people who had a start or people who – yes – have worked hard. BUT the latter are themselves a minority of the strivers – the ones who got the breaks. Luck does come into it.
However, while this kind of socio-economic system persists we will continue to drive a wedge between those who do have wealth and power and those who do not, and it will have nothing to do with whether those on either side of the divide work hard. By and large they do. It will have nothing to do with whether one side ‘deserve’ their wealth and the other their relative poverty. It will have nothing to do with the supposed virtues which we pin on the ‘successful’ by virtue of their success. The wedge, the existence of advantage, crushes the whole idea of freedom.
We have seen how one answer to this injustice panned out. We saw Bolshevism fail, we saw it replace one set of injustices with another. But we do need an answer because the world may well be running out of the kind of resources that drove capitalism when they were plentiful, people may be (I repeat ‘may be’ not ‘are’) creating more problems in our environment than capitalism can solve with its technology and its enterprise. The latter is too concerned with making and consolidating wealth. So where to look?
To my mind, we need to think right outside the box, to dare to think that our national and corporate structures are harmful to us and not our benefactors, that they guarantee not our liberty but our bondage. We need to make democracy local, free, and open; and we need to cease to regard ‘reward’ (or more properly ‘price’) as the goal of work. We need to replace the commercial, capitalist idea of work as a commodity to be sold with the philosophy of the social value of work. Evolution teaches us that societal species survive hard times better than competitive species, and that therefore mutual aid is a better philosophy than individual success. The attitude to work that we need to foster is this: If I see someone walking down the street with two heavy bags and I help her by carrying one, that is work, but its value is not the equivalent in porter’s wages for the time expended; rather its value is social. Such work is entirely outside of the commercial sphere. In a community which accepts the philosophy of mutual aid all work becomes work of social value rather than of commercial value. As I put it in an essay elsewhere, “if a community makes shoes everyone eats, and if a community makes bread everyone is shod”.
Along with this concept of mutual aid should go a devolution of democracy down to the lowest possible level – a confederation of cooperating communities (forgive the alliteration, I’m a poet) each one based on face-to-face democracy in open meetings where everyone has a voice. Bad news for capitalism and bad news for statecraft, but it needs to be done. These are not unfamiliar, alien concepts, by the way. These are not something foisted on us by Bolshevist ideologues hungry for power. These are things which are there in our histories and cultures, often buried deep, often suppressed by the power of political orthodoxies, but they are our heritage and they should be familiar to us. For an American, for example, the analogy would be the town meetings of New England (which were suppressed when the constitutional framework of the USA was set in stone and power devolved away from the people), but the tradition is there in historical examples. These examples are not without their faults – the democratic assemblies of classical Greece supported a patriarchy, militarism, and slavery, but they were face-to-face assemblies. I cite other examples of mutualism, some of which were successful some of which were not (usually because of outside pressures and coercion) but all of which showed what was possible if the will was there. The early Christian church in Jerusalem, as depicted in Acts; the ‘Diggers’ communities during the English Revolution in the 17c; the participatory democracy of the Six Iroquois Nations; the Hutterites; the revolutionary ‘sections’ during the French Revolutions (suppressed by the Jacobins); the local, face-to-face-democratic councils in immediate-post-revolution Russia (suppressed by the Bolsheviks); the Kibbutzim; the Zapatista-controlled areas of Mexico. All of these are echoes of this mutualist idea. I recommend finding Murray Bookchin’s amazing, extemporised lecture ‘Forms of Freedom’ from 1985 to hear the concept of ‘libertarian municipalism’ expounded further.
Of course in societies like ours, where we have become used to a certain level of affluence, the thought that we are not free hardly occurs to us. We never consider the fact that the state and the corporations that govern our lives so completely are not actually our friends. Our state tells us it protects our freedom, our corporations sell us neat stuff. Setting up communities based on mutual aid, where work has social rather than commercial value, would be one hell of a wrench. We would have to give up a lot of our ‘neat stuff’. I look at it this way: I never had a private jet, so if I never get the chance to have one I won’t miss that; the only difference between giving up that private jet and a handful of ‘luxuries’ (‘neat stuff’) I do have is that I’ll miss them. For a while. So what? I’ll gain freedom, and my work will have a value beyond what it currently has.
(As a postscript, I actually like Steve Jobs as a person by the way.)
Thank you for reading, if you have got this far, and my apologies for hi-jacking your thread. You did me the great favour of getting me thinking this morning.
Kind regards,
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Nice post Emma. I worked in Germany and throughout Europe in my early twenties for about four years. My initial impression of the German work ethic was that is was efficient but not to the level I was expecting. There was a constant chatter about “Urlaub”…when so and so was going on vacation. Most people in europe enjoy at least four weeks of vacation regardless of the length of time you have been with the firm. People didn’t stay late and they didn’t work on the weekend. But, the German work ethic was at a higher level relative to many of the surrounding euro countries so that they enjoyed and enjoy a competitive advantage. On the other hand, if you were to ask me where I would prefer to live, it would be France, Itally, Spain, Greece, the Netherlands. Those people know how to live life. But living life comes with a cost…debt!
Bottom line, the folks in Asia and India are hungry, tough, focused, and their empires are far from reaching their peaks. I am afraid America’s empire is on the decline and its people have grown soft. Good ideas may originate in the United States, but if you were a CEO where would you go to get your idea implemented? I would look for people that are hungry and eager to make my idea become a reality. As a result, I would look east.
Much more to say but this is enough…great post and I enjoyed your insight.
Fantastic post! I undesrtand both sides of the views towards work. I was always brought up knowing the importance of hard work, but, as a writer, it is taking me time to get a balance with creativity. You’re absolutely right: following your dreams means working your ass off and really giving it your all!
Such an article… lovely!! i think you just wanna say that experience is the best teacher, don’t you agree…??
Very well written blog, well done. I use to live and work in Hong Kong and having now spent a number of years working in the UK, the mentality towards work and play are very different. I think work is a part of life in the east while in the west it is seen as a method for generating wealth that allows you to have the personal life you want. I don’t know which way is better, or if one just suits some people more than the other.
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As someone who lived in Singapore for 3 years, I share your insight. I was lucky enough to work with a creative team over there that always impressed me even though overall, I found creative thought and outside-the-box thinking a little lacking in other corners of the society. On the Gen Y topic, I think it’s fitting for Boomers and X’ers to call that generation lazy–after all, isn’t that what ever older generation says about the one that comes after it? But Gen Y’s perspective isn’t all about laziness. They watched their parents work for 20 years in a company and then get screwed, they watched the tech bubble pop and the recession come on and they’re thinking “hell, I’m not going to give up my life to work. Why should I? My employer won’t be loyal to me! I’m going to work just enough to support the life I want.” Different than the rampant greed of the ’80s and ’90s for sure, but I find it kind of admirable that this generation won’t be giving themselves heart attacks over annual reports.
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Hi Emma, this was a great post! I could not agree more with you for the most part, and yes I do agree with you that a balance of Western and Eastern ideals would be perfect. However, I disagree a bit on this part of your post: “However, what I also witnessed in Asia was an unquestioning and borderline passive stance towards societal norms. Nearly every time I thought to challenge authority in some way shape or form, my remarks were almost always met with an all-too-accepting “that’s just the way things are.””
Yes, generally speaking we Asians have a tendency to be passive about things and shrug it off as “just the way things are.” I typically attribute that to the years (in my country’s case, CENTURIES) of oppression from our colonial masters. But I’d like to think that with globalization and with the younger generation being more worldly & well-traveled, we are starting to question certain things and demand reforms as needed. Don’t forget – Thailand has been in the news, off and on, for the last few years due to the protests against their government; the Philippines has an active anti-government movemen; Indonesia has also seen several upheavals that resulted in changes in government, etc. Even Singapore has seen a rise in the number of government and authority critics in recent years, though the ruling government has been quite vigilant in policing these.
Moving from politics to product/service innovation, China and India are both starting to become globally competitive on this front. The Economist recently dedicated an entire issue on the topic of innovation in emerging markets – and by emerging markets, they mostly meant these two countries I mentioned. http://www.economist.com/node/15879369
Cheers!
hard work can change our life. i m agree with u
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Awesome
Glad there are still some people out there who realise that what you receive is directly proportionate to the amount of effort, sweat and tears put it
Yeah!
I think so…!
it has..!
Sorry to be irreverent or deliberately controversial!.but there is no such thing as working hard if you are white collar. We need to start producing again in the West to put some stoppoers on the slippery slope
I must lead a sheltered life…Steve Job’s name does not ring any bells. I’ll take more notice from now on after reading your interesting blog.
Awesome
you can google the name if you’re ever curious! Thanks for stopping by, copperknob!
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You’ve clearly hit a nerve.
A few thoughts…anything that shakes up America’s wearying exceptionalism is well worth a read, as every country in the world likely has something in its own culture of value worth considering, but a tiny fraction of Americans will ever even own or use a passport to travel to a country where they don’t speak the language and confront (and consider the relative value of) daily behaviors that are foreign to them.
I grew up in Canada, have lived in England, France and Mexico and now 22 years in the U.S. I am astonished (and not in a good way) by American insistence that their POV is de facto the best. Not with a recession heading into year four…
To Mikalee and Samantha’s point about the clash between the time it takes to risk and your family’s needs, welcome to freelancing! I don’t have kids, but my husband is very accustomed to (when necessary) my disappearing into my work as a writer. Taking risks is directly related to another very difficult issue for Americans — saving money and living frugally. If you have no money in the bank, you literally are chained to your desk/cube/life because you cannot afford to fail — and risks are…risky! You might indeed fail in a new venture. So you have to find the will to set aside the income to leave the income to take the risk you won’t make as much money as before (highly likely at first.)
Can you live on (a lot) less and enjoy it? I grew up in a family of freelancers and have lived riskily for decades. You enjoy it or you don’t. But you can’t make much progress without these choices.
This post really resonates with me for two reasons:
1. Like you I’m in awe of Steve jobs and his sheer dedication and passion
2. Very rarely to people have the maturity to appreciate the strengths and weakness of the eastern and western systems of work.
This controversy, though not a 100% right, makes some interesting points: http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/shyamal-majumdar-%60tata%60-to-work-ethic/436851/
Love this! You very clearly articulated my sentiments that I was never able to put into words satisfactorarily. Having grown up in Australia but born in Asia, the clash of cultural values and indeed identity certainly makes life interesting.
Every culture has its strengths and weaknesses, so blending the best of many isn’t a bad idea.
If we want to continue advancing our technology, we just need to keep having Star Trek shows on the air – everything that Jobs came up with, was inspired by Star Trek.
Yes. The transistion of east west culture also seen.
“More hours at work” has replaced “hard work” in this country. For those on the in many jobs “work” and “social life” are one and the same. For those at the bottom of the economic food chain work is a scramble to survive and provide the basics–admittedly basics that are the dream of most in the 3rd world (clean water, electricity, food etc).
In the US people who want to be creative and take a risk and start something new often face realities such as “how do I provide health care for my child who has X disease” or the regulations involved in starting something may require hours of work by an attorney. A building may be needed and financing is now virtually unobtainable even to many folks who could self-finance. Or, the idea may succeed only to fail when it grows too fast.
The people I see who are the most innovative are those who are saying no to suburban life and carving their own lives in urban or rural areas. Choosing the risks of self-sufficiency in rural areas or perhaps of free-lancing in large urban ones. There are people, too, who are boldly changing their definitions of “success” and “enough”–even of “education” or “training.” This, too, me is the hope that is flickering out there that we will again be a nation of rugged individualism, of innovation.
Definitely, we need to strike a balance. It’s not really about East/West. Rather, it’s a balance that all should thrive to attain – not that we can help being creative or not, but at least work hard, and try out new ideas; be open-minded, not only accept the tried-and-tested. I dislike laziness and inefficiency, and I definitely do not appreciate a lack of creativity. I guess it’s often deemed as idealism, but really, its achievable – hard-work and creativity are not mutually exclusive; they can definitely be key factors for success.
I do not think you can make a general classification of American / European and Eastern / Asian.
I work for a multi-national. I have seen lazy, creative people in China, and super hard working, robotic people in the US and Europe. But I do get your point about cultural differences and what it comes down to is what those cultures value. Some cultures value hard work. Some value creativity. Some value resource ownership. ??? It is different everywhere and even across the US.
PS – I do not find Apple products innovative at all. Apple is an “experience” company, not a technology company. You are buying an experience… a locked down, proprietary product. This is an old paradigm repackaged into better marketing. ?? If you look at what Apple does, it isn’t miraculous at all. It is just niche marketing and smart work at it’s finest.
I think you are absolutely right. My husband and I are both Gen Xers and are both freelancers. Although we are only in our mid-thirties, we’ve already been hard at work now for almost 15 years now. And I’m not complaining: there is no greater satisfaction than knowing that your achievements are the result of your own hard work, and knowing that sacrificing all those times you could’ve been sleeping, spending the afternoon in the park with your daughter or just doing something else has been worth it all.
The generations that are fresh out of college have no tolerance for frustration and seem afraid to start getting some hands-on experience for fear of not getting what they want RIGHT NOW.
I’ve seen it many times in these past years and it is discouraging. They are so afraid that they prefer to keep on studying until there is nothing left to do, and by that time, they already have so many degrees and qualifications they often find themselves being disqualified from any and all jobs because of that.
At least that’s how it goes in the southern part of the American continent…
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I dont take risks with most things:) unless its speed of course
I do not ascribe to the one world, global outlook. To me, it’s man’s slap at the face of God and His authority stemming back to the tower of Babel.
Genesis 11:1-8 reads:
1 “Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As men moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there.
3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves and not be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”
5 But the LORD came down to see the city and the tower that the men were building. 6 The LORD said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”
8 So the LORD scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city”.
The same attitude that the people had back then is found in globalists today.
Thanks for sharing.
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Great food for thought. I don’t have any answers for the questions you pose. Just more confusion about what’s happening in my own life. I, by nature, am a hard-working, disciplined, employee, who typically out performs her cohorts, yet I just lost my FT status. My boss told me the decision had nothing to do with performance and that he’s thrilled with that. So, as other coworkers who slack off, sell less, and alienate customers are retained, I just scratch my head. It’s about more than just working hard.
I currently work in South Korea, as an English teacher. Sometimes, I feel like Joey from the Friends episode when he had an office, but did nothing because he was the company softball ringer. I am the token native English teacher. My boss worries if I work more than 30 hours and week; not because of payroll. In America, I worked 3 jobs in the service industry, and was a full time student. I busted ass for 15-17 hours almost everyday for 6 months. Before that I usually had at least 2 jobs.Granted, it was hard work that never took me higher, but the satisfaction of drinking expensive whisky, and seeing great concerts was my reward.
I write this because my students lazy, for the most part. I have some very smart students, but there is a thought process here that having an open book is studying, and being in class is work. Here it is all about the exams. For most of the year students don’t do much, except put in hours. Then comes exam time. 4 times a year, the students buy study books for the nationwide exams. This happens 3 weeks before the 2-3 day exam time. For 3 weeks they cram, and they work hard. They take the exams;worry until the results come back.Then the top 10-20 students continue to actually work ,and the rest of the students open their book; thinking of everything except school.
You have some valid points in your post, and please don’t think I am disagreeing to disagree; the only jobs I had before teaching were at, soul sucking, service industry dives. East and West, there are people who equate hours worked with hard work. I disagree with that line of thinking. The best advice I ever received in school, and lfe, was ” work smarter, not harder”. 15 minutes of studying everyday is better than 2 days of allnighters. As a bartender, the best advice ever given: ” make sure your day off counts.All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.”
Congrats on being pressed; love the view of Hong Kong. Hope I didn’t ramble too long.
Apologies for the typos. Part of working hard is checking the work.
What an insightful post. I am one of those people who went to college right out of high school, and then grad school immediately after. I never finished my thesis, because the economy crashed and I was forced to move back home. I ended up finding a job where I work 80+ hours a week and I’ve been here now for 2 and a half years. I am almost always feeling that frustration of not doing “enough” with my life, even though this is the hand I have been dealt. Instead of sitting around and pitying myself, I got a job in an industry that thrives in economic hardship. But it’s come at the cost of holding me back from completing my degree, and the hours are often so intense that it’s really killed a lot of my desire to try to create with what little free time I have as well.
As other commenters have noted, that is a typical attribute of my generation. I want things now, and I feel very cheated by the promise of a “good” job just because I went to college. Sure, that sounds naive in retrospect, but as a kid, I was always told that this was the way it was. I’ve always been a creative person, and I want to grow and end up successful as an artist/composer/writer, but I’ve had a fear of the uncertain instilled in me. It’s refreshing to see so many people put their minds to work and look at careers from a different perspective. I really do think that the ideas you presented — that is, cultivating work ethic and management techniques from Eastern philosophies — are very provoking thoughts.
The timing for this article couldn’t have been better for me. I’m currently working at a school in Thailand, and worked at one in China last year– experiences that have left me less than impressed with the work ethics among the young people, and the way that they’re encouraged by older generations.
But you’re right: “The West champions its free-spirited, individualistic culture, while the East generally values discipline, respect for authority, and academic excellence.” I just think in a way this has become a bit adulterated. More so in China, the extracurriculars in which the kids were engaged could be a bit mind-blowing. Our school itself was an extracurricular program, and when the kids weren’t there they were at ping-pong practice, violin practice, piano practice, extra math lessons, or just studying for one of the “important examinations/competitions” that seemed to come in an incessant strain. Somehow in the mix they must have found time for video games, as they all had minor obsessions with them. (The is obviously not solely an Eastern phenomenon.)
I’m not opposed to encouraging the youth to become well-rounded; to explore many areas of interest and expertise. However, to ask each Monday, “Did you have a good weekend?!” and have the response be, pretty much without fail, “Ughhhh no teacher, very busy! Must study…” suggests that something is a bit amiss. And what’s more is that I came to find their studying was so frequently was based on rote methodology, that taught students how to produce a correct answer without necessarily understanding the process involved to do so.
This last part has been terribly apparent in Thailand as well. The amount of copying I’ve seen, both as evidenced by the work I receive as well as the students blatantly sitting in the halls with a friend’s notebook next to theirs, is astounding. The fact that the Thai teachers seem relatively nonplussed by this is even more so, but made more understandable when you watch how they put together their grades. There is SO much fudging it made me a bit uncomfortable to be in the office at times. I make no attempt to claim that this is a strictly Asian phenomenon either; I know each year there are scandals in which incidents of cheating on teachers’ parts are brought to light in the States as well. But even though the reasons might be different– funding in the West, prestige in the East– the results on the level of the children are the same: they’re taught that there will always be someone there to bail them out; that they can still “excel”, or at least get by, without putting forth the effort that should be required. And as for the students who actually do try and are deserving of the passing grades, well, it trivializes their achievements.
This is already a bit long so I’ll wrap up. First, none of this is an attempt to excuse what I agree is perhaps a growing trend in the States– being opportunistic in the negative sense, shying away from hard work, jumping from job to job as soon as there’s a larger dollar sign involved. It’s also not to offer a blanket generalization across every school and student in Thailand, or China, or Asia– there are obviously the driven, the balanced, and truly squared-away kids, and they exist in spades. I just thought I’d share what I kind of see as the OTHER (or, more likely, just ANother) side of things over here; it’s not what I was expecting when I came, and I think it’s definitely not what most people assume when they think of academic standards in the East.
amcalonder, thanks for dropping by and for sharing from your experiences. Your stories are so interesting to hear; they made me wonder if maybe the whole shying-away-from-hard-work endemic extends beyond the Western hemisphere? I wonder if it has something to do with how quickly society is evolving and changing today with the advent of social media and widespread accessibility of the Internet: everything moves so rapidly that generations no longer understand what it means to devote themselves to one task for a prolonged period of time. This is just a random thought I had though as I read your comment – I could be completely incorrect!
On another note, I LOVE your blog and am now following your updates! Thanks for dropping by
I really appreciate that you’ve taken the time to argue from both sides of the fence, and the care to put yourself in the camp of “interested observer.” Lohr’s article is reminiscent of the “slacktivism” trend talked about lately: Gen-Y is ready to stand for anything, as long as we can do it from the comfort of our own IP addresses. There’s so much truth to your (and Lohr’s) argument that innovation takes supreme effort, and no one has ever succeeded without failing a few times first.
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I am glad some one is taking a look at our human failings and exposing them for what they are.
Thanks so much for sharing this. I’ve been a musician all my life, and I don’t regret for a moment the time I’ve spent in the corporate world learning the value of hard work and breaking a sweat. And there’s no amount of talent in the world that can substitute for the time you put in to honing your craft and educating yourself. I just might reblog this….
This is really interesting!
I recently entered a college conservatory program where I am lucky if I get 3 hours a day to myself (including time to eat). Nothing in my life has prepared me for working hard, and my response to everything is, “This isn’t right. They shouldn’t be doing it this way. How is it even legal to demand sleep deprivation?”
I do believe those things, but at time same time I recognize that I AM lazy, and most of that is how I was raised and what I saw as examples here in America.
But at the same time, I don’t want to work that hard. I don’t want to stress myself out for 12 hours a day in the workforce and not be able to have relationships or a family life, and have my whole LIFE here on earth be work. I don’t want to spend my life like that. So, I guess that means I will have to be ok with being somewhat mediocre.
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You certainly have a flair for expressing your opinion. I so enjoyed your post about hard work and question about the lack of it in today’s generation. Sometimes I wonder if some of that is due to the lack of these skills being presented to a person. It is just too easy to slack off and get away with it. I have seen it in my current job, with at least half of the young people. Thank goodness they only get away with it for a few months before they are let go. I wonder if they ever knew why and if that made a difference in their work ethic in their next job.
Well put. I don’t think one thinking is better than the other. Like most things in life it takes a combination of many influences that creates a superior subject. Sure, talent is key but with out dedication and hard work those talents can’t be used to their fullest.
Agreed. Thanks for the feedback
My 70 year old dad was a coal miner and factory worker. He instilled a VERY strong work ethic in me. I’m 25 and I absolutely LOVE working hard and I’m a typical Type A personality. I’m active duty military and one of my major pet peeves is not seeing any fruits from my labor. I’m paid on salary and do not receive overtime and we don’t get promoted based upon work results. (To get promoted we take a written test once a year). I struggle everyday with job satisfaction and I feel as if my hard work and talent can be utilized more efficiently in the civilian job force.
As someone raised by ‘Eastern’ values in a ‘Western’ world, “if [this post] doesn’t sound arduous and even a bit unsexy, then I don’t know what is.” Couldn’t agree more! Although I wish sometimes we could learn to find the middle ground between these two cultural perspectives…how to go about that is a brainy task.
An attention-grabbing dialogue is worth comment. I believe that you must write more on this topic, it might not be a taboo topic however typically people are not enough to speak on such topics. To the next. Cheers
As an outsider living in UK – London and in past Austria, Germany, Poland, Holland, Ireland can say that europe is very authority minded. UK is little bit different, more flexible but if you end up working for ousiders you will feel the diffrence in operation, for example French – very structured hierarchical oganizations, you can be genius or superstar and they won’t pay attenion.
Now Im focus on my risk-taking activities, which completly tally with my status quo and don’t want to even look back and think like an employee.
World needs more entrepreneurs, more leaders, more dreamers….there is so much to explore….
Steve Jobs made what he promissed himself, he knows the secret….
“Dreams lofty dreams and shall become reality”
Great post Emma – Thanks!
Nice post Emma. Change and Innovation is such an interesting subject. To be sure, risk taking is analogous to innovation but only an element to it. The biggest problem I see in creating disruptive technologies today lies within our traditional organisational structures and business cultures. There seem to be too many tall organisations with centralised decision-making processes and high regard for the gate-keepers – of which most executives are – who are by-and-large as about as innovative as my Grandmother programming code. I could go on for years, but anyhoo, thanks for sharing.
jseaford, you made an interesting point about traditional business structures and how they impede innovation. Did you experience this firsthand?
Congrats on the new job, by the way, and thanks for stopping by
Hiya Emma, thanks for stopping by also
Yeah, actually I’m currently doing a unit that has focussed a lot on change and innovation, so I was regurgitating what I had learned – not an innovative thought, so to speak. But I’d be happy to share with you what I know, if ya want. Jia you.
I agree!! It takes hard work and innovation to be successful. Risk taking is really about one’s self image. This is why I believe one of the most important factors in education is instilling a healthy self image in students. At the end of the day if you don’t take a chance on yourself, your left to take chances on someone else.
I completely agree, and, before reading your entire post, I read the title and immediately thought of the Western education system.
I believe that problems in the workforce stems directly from education. I feel that our students, and our society, are getting progressively lazier. With huge progressions in technology we’ve turned into a society that literally has everything at our fingertips. We can see it in basic things like the fact that students don’t know how to do research because they have wikipedia, they don’t know how to spell because they have spell check, and attention spans are getting shorter and shorter. It’s proven that these shorter attention spans are leading to ever increasing multi-tasking which itself is proven to result in people spending longer to complete tasks which turn out to be done at a quality which is lacking.
Meanwhile, huge amounts of students are able to glide through elementary, junior high, and high school without never having to do any real or challenging work as so many teachers have resigned themselves to the fact that students are getting “dumber” and are allowing them to pass without really deserving to do so.
As a result, I find that huge strides made in our technologies and culture are the result of a few creative and hardworking individuals, while the rest simply survive and glide through their lives and their careers the same way the glided through their basic education.
Well said. There is a lack of hard work and sacrifice in this country, with too many people wondering why things aren’t going their way. The need for more individual responsibility is great right now, and it is great writing like this that can help people understand that the challenge of America is an individual one.
Love it! One thing though – won’t say hard work’s exotic – at least not yet. Just that risk-takers (read risk-taking successful souls) get more attention and praise. So yeah, creative genius stays at the foreground while drudgery blends in.
Excellent post! I totally agree.
Hi Emma, interesting post – thanks for sharing your thoughts. I agree with you that the future success relies (in part, at least) on our ability to marry creativity and free thinking with discipline and hard work. Just coming up with a great idea is not enough – you’ve got to have the guts to do something about it, which would most likely require you to work relentlessly until you achieve what you conceptualized in the beginning. So, yes, I agree that the successful innovators are those who are driven, disciplined and hard working.
However, I’d disagree a bit with your stance on bringing in Eastern values into our society. I think discipline and hard work take very different meanings in those societies – and sometimes those meanings can be detrimental. Discipline in the Western sense means “keeping on track with what you have started and avoiding distraction and discouragement.” Discipline in the Eastern sense means “abiding by the age-old rules and traditions, without ever thinking about questioning the logic of those who are deemed more authoritative than you.” The former definition leads to innovation. The latter – not so much.
If you don’t believe me – try to answer one of the following questions: 1) Who is the equivalent of Steve Jobs in Asia? 2) What and when was the last disruptive company/product that came from Asia? 3) Who is a world-known Asian-born rock and pop artist with a universal fan base around the world?
Don’t get me wrong. I don’t want to sound chauvinistic or anything like that. In fact, I have lived myself in Asia and have many friends from all over the continent. And the country I come from is right at the “crossroads of the world” where the West meets the East, so I dare say I understand both perspectives quite well.
My main point is that we tend to put a bit too much hype into bringing Eastern values into Western business. Steve Jobs became what he is because he questioned authority, because he identified problems with the status quo and decided to resolve them, because he believed that something was possible when everyone else was saying the contrary. Steve Jobs would not have fit well in a traditional Eastern society. So, I think it is more a matter for us (in the West) to reinvent our own forces that have driven progress and success for so many centuries, rather than blindly borrow from other cultures, hoping that bridging the Eastern and Western thinking would miraculously solve all our problems.
Aw, this was a very nice post. In idea I wish to put in writing like this additionally – taking time and actual effort to make an excellent article… but what can I say… I procrastinate alot and by no means appear to get something done.
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Excellent post. Some great points you highlight in there.
In the West, everyone thinks their going to be millionaires, but they know really that that’s never going to happen… there aren’t enough millionaire jobs to go around and anyone who hasn’t got the cash to put themselves through college or build computers in their garage for ten years ain’t gonna rise to the top. There’s hardly any jobs period. So it’s ridiculous to tell people that if they just worked a bit harder they can do whatever they want! Steve Jobs owns apple, a company that is working ‘hardworking asians’ so hard for pittance that they’re comitting suicide. How can you say that our “current and future generations would be better off finding and achieving a delicate balance between [Jobs'] ideals of personal freedom and creativity and [aforementioned sweatshop workers] morals of discipline and respect”? Do you mean the kind of ideals of personal freedom that allows Jobs to work people to their deaths without caring? Coupled with the morals of discipline and respect that can only be instilled by taking workers away from their homes, putting them up in dormitories and not letting them leave?
I would say- yes you are way over your head here.
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‘Work’ is a word carrying too much baggage to allow anything meaningful in this type of discourse. The use of it in this context implies sitting in front of a computer creating something of zero worth, be it advertising, accounting, regulatory treatises, letters to real estate prospects, sitting in front of a desk full of papers and making them move actually has value of some sort. Compared, say, to the guy working down at the sewer plant, whom I’d assert, works one hell of a lot harder than you do in activities with a lot more value than those I mentioned above, but getting paid nothing. Those guys unloading trucks behind the grocery store, washing windows standing on a ladder forty floors up are presumably working hard. The people inside the glass provide themselves the illusion they are doing so, but precisely what are they doing of value? What are they actually producing to place them on some loftier platform in the human experience than the mechanic fixing their automobile down the street? Zilch. They might as well be working in a factory in China producing rubber monster toys or US flags.
I appreciate your insights, Old Jules, but I’ll have to agree to disagree with your statement that white-collar workers fail to create anything of value. Our economy needs certain industries in order to thrive; and without people sitting at their desks crunching numbers, researching, compiling data, and doing business, our businesses wouldn’t be able to function. I also try to stray away from measuring “hard work.” The idea of work itself carries multiple meanings and connotations; to assert that one field of work is “harder” than another is inaccurate and unfair, in my opinion. However, again, these are just my opinions and I’m sure there are several well-founded, logical arguments out there to contest them. In any case, thanks for dropping by!
I have had graduate students say to me, “I want what you have, but I don’t want to have to work for it.” I say, “Good luck with that.” In all seriousness, I am genuinely worried for these folk who will accumulate tens of thousands of dollars of debt to pay for an education that they are not committed to 100%.
It blows my mind that students in graduate school would make a remark like that–I imagine that pursuing a graduate degree is a huge commitment involving tons of hard work in and of itself! But to each his own, I suppose. Thanks for dropping by!
i agree with your nicely written piece. Risk in most cases equals reward however flying an airplane without landing gear(work) which is certainly risky will only get you one place. See Ghandi’s Seven dangers to virtue which I believe fit with your peice nicely.
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